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Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #291

I am currently tracing my family history and found that many of my ancestors came from Hambledon, Thursley and the Guildford area. May I ask you, kind locals, if their are any descandants of the Child family in the village? My Great Great Grandfather, Samuel Child was a loacal blacksmith. Having learned his trade from his father, William Child, he passed the tradition on to his eldest son, also called William. Samuel & wife, Ann (Court), had 10 children.

I have searched the internet for old pictures of Hambledon in the hope that I may come across one of the local blacksmith hard at work, but my search has not yeilded anything.

Looking at pictures & photographs of your beautiful village has been very rewarding. The local church would have been the venue for all the Child baptisms, most of the marriages and a good few of the burials, too. I would really love to establish contact with anyone who may have any stories, pictures, memories etc of the Child family.

Kind regards,

Ann Clarke

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #293

Hello Ann,

Welcome to the forum. I will make enquiries of the Heritage Society who may be able to help with your quest.
Paul Osborne, Hydestile
Hambledon Web Development Team

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #295

:) Yhank yo,Paul. That would be a fantastic help!

Ann X

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #296

I am told that a William Child was a Hambledon blacksmith for several years. (I guess that is your family!) the advice is that you should really start at the Surrey History Centre (In Woking) where a lot a family research is done. They have some Hambledon Parish records and the census records. People can do this on your behalf apparently, at a cost. We have a resident here who may also be able to help with additional information..I am sourcing her email address for you... stand-by.
Paul Osborne, Hydestile
Hambledon Web Development Team

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #297

This would be an enormous help! Thank you so very much. I am more than happy for this lady to have my email address! Mum, who has just celebrated her 91st birthday, tells me that William Child (the younger) lived to be about 100 years young. She has extremely fond memories of Hambledon and the surrounding villages and has told me several little stories about her time there as she visited family.
I am planning to spend a few days in the area next year so that I can visit the landmarks that my ancestors would have had links to, like the church where they were baptised, married etc, must get a drink in the local too!!!! Still all very much in the planning stage.

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #298

Hi Ann,

The Village network has generated this info forwarded to me:

William CHILD or CHILDS

Records taken from Census Returns


1841 Born Hambledon. Age 75. Blacksmith
living with Wife Sarah also born Hambledon, aged 60 and two daughters Sarah 10 and Rosa 5

1851 Age 85, occupation described as Smith
Wife Sarah72 and Rosa 15

1861 Age 94, described as blacksmith
Wife Sarah 83

The Tithe Award shows he occupied a house on Rock Hill, owned by Henry Mellersh

Job CHILDS - Possibly same family

1851 born Hambledon, Age 35. Blacksmith
wife Martha, 32, born Hambledon
(living at Buss Cottage)

1861 Age 45 Blacksmith
Martha 46 and Thomas (son) 15, David 13, Louisa 6, Jane 9 months
living ?by the Common)

Charles CHILDS

1871 Born Kirdford. Age 30. Farmer
Wife Barbara born Sussex, Age 27
Anne Maria Age 5 born Wisborough Green and Agnes Ellen 9 months born Hambledon
Farming Hurst Farm 100 acres employing three labourers and two boys.


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Visit the Surrey History Centre 130 Goldworth Road Woking, GU21.6ND. The County record office. Very good facilities for searching family history. Will hold Census records and some Parish Records.
Visit their website www.surreycc.gov.uk/surrey history service and also
www.exploring surreyspast.org.uk
Paul Osborne, Hydestile
Hambledon Web Development Team

Re:Family history? 4 years, 5 months ago #300

Paul,

This really is above and beyond the call of duty! This has given me a few new names to research and will, undoubtedly broaden my family tree. I cannot thank you enough!

My most grateful thanks,

Ann

Re:Family history? 4 years, 3 months ago #355

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Ann

I'm not sure if you're still following this thread - however I happen to own Busses Cottage, so it piqued my interest as I assume it's the same cottage - it's in the parish of Hambledon and I don't think there's another similar name.

I have often wondered why it's called 'Busses' cottage, particularly as old maps describe the common as Buss's Common, suggesting the common owned by Buss.

When looking at the 1871 Census I noted that living at the same address on 'Hambledon Common' (which leads onto Buss's Firs/Common) were:

Job Childs 57 Blacksmith
Martha Childs 54
Thomas Childs 23 Blacksmith
David Childs 21 Stonemason
Louisa Childs 16 no occupation
Jane Childs 10 Scholar
Joseph Buss 20 (nephew) Agricultural Labourer
James Buss 45 (brother) Agricultural Labourer

James Buss seems to have become what is described as an 'indoor pauper' in a later census.

Re:Family history? 3 years, 12 months ago #468

My goodness! I haven't been back to this thread for a while; I was generously given so much information last time, and it has taken me a while to pick through and sort it, if you see what I mean. I have to say that I DO believe this is the same cottage & family. My Samuel Child(s) had a brother, Job, who married Martha Buss, and they did, indeed live at Buss Cottage. Interestingly (for me, any way) Martha had a brother, Daniel who married another of 'my' Samuel's sisters, Hannah Child.

I have just looked at the 1841 census return again, and I have found that William Child (the elder ie Samuel, Job and Hannah's father) is resident at the vague address of Hambledon Village. The next entry, which was not necessarily the door nieghbour, just the next property that the enumerator went to, was called Hambledon Common! Living there was one David Buss, Mrs Elizabeth Buss, Daniel, James & Joseph Buss. This is definitley the same Buss family that the Child family seemed to get on so well with!

I would love to hear back from you!

Yours, Ann

Re:Family history? 3 years, 12 months ago #469

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Hi Ann

It sounds the same.

Well you're very welcome to come around and see the house any time you like....

Neil

Re:Family history? 3 years, 11 months ago #470

Hi there, Neil

I have just found that for some reason, any notifications regarding this thread have been redirected to my spam folder! I think I may have sorted that one out now.

I should like to thank you for your generous offer, however, as I live and work in North Norfolk, it may be a while before I visit your lovely village. It is on the cards though; I would dearly love to come down and look round the local church & cemetery, and visit a few of the land marks that would have been familiar to my ancestors.

What wonderful, kind and generous people you have in your community! Restores my faith in human nature!

Ann
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Re:Family history? 3 years, 11 months ago #471

  • Neil
Hi Ann

Let me have your email address and I will send you some pictures of the house - you can then imagine how it might have looked all those years ago...!

Neil

Re:Family history? 3 years, 11 months ago #480

Thanks, Neil

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Regards, Ann

Re:Family history? 3 years, 8 months ago #518

Is your surname Pescod?

Are there any \"Pescods\" living in Hambledon? Is there any record of a Louisa or Louise Pescod (Bn. 1881) who was living in Hambledon around 1911.
If anyone has any information please reply. Thanks.

Re:Family history? 2 years, 10 months ago #653

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Hi not sure how to post on this forum so am jumping in hoping someone can help me

i have found a document saying that i was at the school in 1953 as a seven year old.
I have no memory of this and my parents are dead so there is no one to ask why i would have been sent there at such a young age as i believe then it was a school for problem children and what exactly is meant by that term special school

Thanks for any help

Ray

Re:Family history? 2 years, 10 months ago #654

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Was this ST Dominic's School?

Re:Family history? 2 years, 10 months ago #655

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yes it was but i wasnt told why i was sent there and would like to know what type of children they took then

Re:Family history? 2 years, 10 months ago #656

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: PESCOD, Louisa
Address: 16 Underwood Road Huslemere


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

PESCOD, Charles Valentine Head Married M 37 1874 House Painter Sussex Westbourne VIEW
PESCOD, Louisa Wife Married
6 years F 30 1881 Kings Rd Haslemere Surrey VIEW
PESCOD, Charles Frederick Son M 5 1906 School Surrey Shottermill VIEW
PESCOD, Thomas Son M 2 1909 Surrey Haslemere VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3150 Reference:
RG14PN3150 RG78PN116 RD35 SD1 ED9 SN46

Registration District:
Hambledon Sub District:
Witley Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Haslemere

Address:
16 Underwood Road Huslemere County:
Surrey


census search results all search results redefine current search
© findmypast.co.uk

Re: Family history? 9 months, 4 weeks ago #885

My great great grandfather is also Samuel Child who was married to Anne (nee Court)! Samuel was the son of William and Sarah Child. Samuel and Anne had a son Albert Child who married Agnes. They in turn had my grandfather, also Albert Child, who married my grandmother, Victoria Maude Mary. They had just one child, my mother, who is Joan Agnes. My mother is 88 years old and lives in Cheshire. She married my father during WW11 and thus moved to the North West of England. She was raised on Epsom Downs.
Quite by chance I now live in Surrey in a village called Windlesham. This is only about 30 minutes from Hascombe, Hambledon and Thursley from whence most of my maternal relatives come from.
Hence I think that we must be related albeit cousins many times removed! However, we definitely share the same great, great grandfather.

Re: Family history? 9 months, 4 weeks ago #886

Hi Kate,

Thank you for that, I have just checked my tree to try to work out the relationship. I have Albert Percy Milton Child, I think he must have been your grand father. It appears that he would have been my cousin, twice removed.

With regard to William Child (the elder), I have in my notes that he was born about 1766, and was the son of Thomas Child and Hannah, nee Denyer.

The Denyer family have popped up in my family history quite a bit now!

It is lovely to hear from you, and I hope this thread throws up a few more little treasures like this.

Ann

Re: Family history? 9 months, 4 weeks ago #887

Hello Ann,
I couldn't believe that you replied so quickly to me. I thought it may be months before you looked at the website since you started your research over three years ago. I only started our research at Christmas time. My mother had expressed a desire to know more about her fathers family and since she is a frail 88 year old we thought we had better get cracking! She may outlive all of us of course.

I agree that Thomas Child, born 1737, and Hannah (nee Denyer) are our Great, Great, Great, Great Grandparents. Hannah Denyer came from Hascombe, which is where my Grandfather lived as a newborn baby. According to the census there were three generations of the Child family living in Upperhouse Farm, Hascombe, Surrey and that is where my newborn Grandfather was taken back to. They (his parents and my Grandfather) soon moved on to Epsom and that is where my mother was raised. She is an only child (forgive the pun!!). Apparently my Grandfather's father was scholarly and was a teacher. He eventually became a Headmaster. My Grandfather, however, was an easy going man who loved the country life and had three allotments and worked with the horses on Epsom Downs. One of my older sisters knows more than I do about this. She remembers more than me.

At Christmas time my husband, John, and I drove over to Hascombe to find Upperhouse Farm. We knew it was still there as it is marked on current day maps. Because they were blacksmiths I thought it would be a little workers cottage but in the event it was an amazing 16th century, Grade II listed, farmhouse. They obviously rented half of it because a Warren family also lived there. Google it and you will see what I mean. Perhaps you have already. We were stunned by its beauty and Hascombe is a "picture perfect" village. We went into the Church, which was rebuilt 150 years ago. Inside there was a Russian influence in the decor. We couldn't find any relavent gravestones but most of them are now illegible. If you want a gravestone which stands the test of time choose marble and not stone!! We went into the local pub, the White Horse, which is a very friendly, family pub and obviously the hub of the village.

From Hascombe we drove over to Hambledon which again is just so pretty. You will notice that our relatives come from the three villages of Hascombe, Hambledon and Thursley. We then drove over to Thursley and immediately found Richard Court's gravestone, born 1726 and died 1792. There was an ode to the blacksmith on the stone - a wonderful rhyme. What amazed us is that the gravestone was no more than 20 years old so someone, somewhere is looking after the grave. There were also a lot of Denyers in the graveyard and a few Winters. Winter cropped up with several Child and Winters marrying. However, I decided to keep to the purer line for us as it goes off in all directions and then you start to get so confused.

Who are your parents and grandparents? It will be lovely to see where you fit into things. I wonder if we look something like each other or whether the looks are completely "watered down"?

Several weeks ago one of my sisters, Pauline, came down and spent a week with us in Surrey. We drove over to Hascombe and had lunch in the White Horse pub. We left our details with the barman who kindly passed them on to a local lady who is interested in ancestry and the history of the place. She phoned me a week later and said she lives in the old Forge and three Child brothers used to live there as blacksmiths. They didn't speak to one another!! There is still a Bob Child alive who wishes to speak to me so today I may pluck up the courage and see where he lies in the family ancestry. He remembers his Grandfather and Great Grandfather living at the Forge and loves to visit the cottage to this day. Apparently the Childs moved from Upperhouse Farm to the Forge because a new main road was built to Godalming and therefore redirected their business. Ms. Worthington also said there is a Church in Hambledon which is difficult to find. I would guess there should be some Childs buried there.

I hope this goes some way to build a picture for you and I will fill you in as I find out more.

Best wishes,
Kate

Re: Family history? 2 months, 2 weeks ago #902

Hi Ann,
Just a note to say I have found the site of the graves for our Great Great Grandparents, Samuel and Anne Child. There is also the grave of one of their daughters, Nellie Child, in St. Peters Church, Hascombe, Surrey. They are in plots 198, 199 and 202. Nellie appears to be buried at their feet. I think she may be an unmarried daughter.
At Christmas (2012) I took my 89 year old mother to put Xmas posies on the graves of her Great Grandparents. It was very touching. A very kind Church Warden emailed the plot details and that is how I became aware of their existence. Because they had lived at Upper House Farm, Hascombe, I thought they probably lay in that Church yard.

Re: Family history? 1 month, 4 weeks ago #904

Sorry I haven't kept up with this thread - really, I am very sorry. I changed computers and lost all my 'favourites' & passwords!

I am now working on my Child & Court lines again and a few interesting and bewildering details have started to appear. I cannot confirm any details as yet, but I have been made aware of a story regarding the hanging of three robbers near 'Bowl Head Green'. It seems that Richard Court was the blacksmith who made the shackles/chains. I don't know; perhaps there is some one local who knows the story, or maybe I have been 'spun a yarn'.

Kate, lovely to read your notes - we must try to catch up with each other online sometime or perhaps you would like to email me direct.

If any one out there has any information that they would care to pass on regarding Richard Court the blacksmith & the story about the hanging, I would love to hear from you.

My mother, now 95 years old (or 21 with 74 years experience) has very fond memories of Hambledon which was the birthplace of my Gt Grandmother, Caroline Child 1866-1945.

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